Welcome to PlasmERG. 12/30/2014.
PlasmERG was the original company that embraced John Rohner's
Plasmic Transition Process technology. in 2008.
Taken Over in mid February 2011, By a "Hostile Takeover",
See Iowa case here initiated by Dr Michael Girouard, a Let's Get Thin MD, "weight loss Multimillionaire" after he Invested in PlasmERG, saw an engine run in Iowa and got greedy. Dr Michael Girouard Invested about 500,000 dollars of his stockholders monies in the project.
Dr Girouard had Broken his contract with PlasmERG, formed his own company
with another 500,000+ dollars of stockholders funds, with Klosterman, and ordered Rohner out.
His own company "Unity International" was provided all the IP from PlasmERG.
PlasmERG is "inactive" but be advised that PlasmERG is still an active company, under Girouard, and still maintains a bank account and as such Girouard (PlasmERG) can be sued.
PlasmERG was the "Research & Design", "Consulting" and Engineering company that had the "EXPERT's", of "Associated Technologies" and whose mission was to make ANY NEW "PLANET SAVING" technology available to all manufacturers. Remember it was John Rohner's controller design, that Tom Rohner Built and Tom Miller programmed (with John's Help) that made the "certified" Papp International engine, designed by Joseph Papp and manufactured by "Rohner Machine Works" engine work. A feat Robert Rohner, using a controller of his design, relays, has yet to accomplish in 30 years and over 18 million dollars scamed.
PlasmERG was a name coined by John Rohner and a close friend.
It was a combination of the Expansion component - PLASMA and the Engineering short hand term for Energy - ERG. Notice that the Proper spelling is PlasmERG, not Plasmerg or such, the ERG is proper term for energy, copyrighted in 2008 by publication.
John Rohner filed the first of his provisional patent applications November 2008. The expectation was for the 3 brothers to make a company and finish the engine since John understood the process and was a well accomplished Embedded Controller designer, and other such things, Bob was a machinist and graduate Mechanical Engineer and Tom was a programmer and sales type. Bob had been promising Tom and John for a couple years to get a new company going. What "Really" was happening was that the old Clean Energy Inc, (CEI) group was trying to use John Rohner's credentials and accomplishments to "hustle" investors, without John being allowed to meet them. John was not aware of all the stuff that had gone on "raising" and spending monies by these guys, for all these years. Once he did John actually "resigned" any further involvement with what Bob was trying to do. Bob made the mistake of telling John that it would be "impossible" for him to figure out and he was just a new face and not part of the CEI Group. John had spent his life doing "impossible" so he sat down and using his old data, from when he designed the Control system for Papp in 1981, and using good physics related the control to the process and back to the Physics. Not that hard for him and he filed the first provisional patent. Bob had been sending out "prospectus" like documents and having meetings without any real takers. Bob even stated. on his resume, that he worked for Papp International until 2004, to cover the engines he copied and sold at $50K each. Papp International went out of business in 1998. So, Bob has made $250,000 from stolen engine designs since these engines he manufactured were designed by Joe Papp for Papp International and Robert Rohner had lost his license to make one. Even funnier Bob had removed the Controller, designed by John Rohner and built and programmed by Tom Rohner and Tom Miller, and replaced it with a Relay Rack, like he shows now, that has never worked. Seems to John That he took of the critical part that did work just to use one that did not, so that the CEI guys could "milk" the technology, which they did to the tune of 18 to 23 Million dollars over the 1982 to 2013 timeframe. Bob has stated on various blogs that his "relay" unit is superior to the Controller John and Tom did, even though it worked and not a single one of the "Relay Racks" has ever worked. Like the "paint shaker" BS (Bob Speak)it points out the limited understanding of simple engineering.
In 2008, John was working on a government contract, Future Combat, as a contractor which meant he had a very good income, John's income was between 165 and 340 thousand dollars per year depending on job and overtime, and money in the "sock" (before the Bush Bust John had over 2 million dollars in trust funds), as contractors call it, to start a company. Rohner continued to work as a contractor and work spare time on the engine for the first year. In 2010 the Republican Bush's Economic failures cost him his trust funds. But, The remaining money, plus monies that John's wife inherited from her mothers death, paid for everything into mid 2009 (and even as late as 2013), and the patent application later as well. Keep in Mind that Robert and Janet Rohner Stole over $61,000 from John and Connie as well. Bob's wife Janet is a College professor at a "catholic" college yet she was right there supporting her husbands criminal actions. Yes she knew she owned the house and that Bob sold it to Connie and that it had tax liens against it etc.
Using some of his money John Incorporated several companies, even Rohner Motor, which it turns out did have a Papp International license, to Bob, that was voided because Bob failed to spend the $50 and make his own company. As he had done for over a year with Tom and John.
A Friend of mine and I came up with a great name and without having to provide for my brothers, that name, PlasmERG was incorporated in Iowa. We had a group of 5 people involved, one would become the west liberty mayor. Our first meeting was at the Riverside, IA casino, for dinner.
Bob was so unhappy that he decided the house he had sold us was not going to ever complete. He had made us an offer, 3 years earlier, to buy it from him and live in it. He had been trying to sell it but no buyers. So the deal was that we pay him $45K for it and he would buy it back in 5 years for $90K or we could sell it. Connie had given him a check for $39K stating when we "closed" he would get the remaining $9K. She did not trust him, no matter what I said. He was about to lose everything to foreclosure and this $39K was critical. In 3 years we never got so much as a receipt, except our check. Now, I had a patent application and he wanted us out. It was then that we found out just what he was and his wrath. Bob did not even own the house he took the check for. His wifey did. Turned out he owns nothing. Seems he got caught with his "girlfriend(s)" and she allowed him to stay, but on a tight string. He had also bankrupted the family (multimillion dollar per year) business, so it too was gone. The two, Bob and Janet, also partnered to steal from the rest of the family when Dad Died, as well. In any case we got kicked out of the house after putting nearly $100K into it and got zip. He is NOT suable. He had also learned about the visual side effects from me and actually put light pipes into the last copy of the "Papp International" engine he copied for $50K, he made 5 in total.
Remember it was Bob that ripped the electronic Controller, John had designed and Tom built and Tom Miller programmed, off the Papp Engine, after certification and replaced it with the Relay mechanical mess that never worked. Always seemed strange to John that all these "super intellects" from CEI that took millions to "tinker" never asked why it quit working and stepped back to square one. John Had, and from that understood the engine. But that is Bob!
John and Connie, after Bob Rohner stole $39,000 from Connie, (his sister-in-law), found a nice home in South English, bought it with some of her remaining funds from the sale of her home in PA and the Governments "First time buyer" of $8000 and moved there. The garage was converted to a "shop" and development started using the open weekends John had. He was contracted to "Future Combat" a multi billion dollar project the government was doing. From his salary, and savings, John bought all the test equipment, computers etc. needed to start the process and he found good partners to machine parts etc. John Rohner was the sole source of funding. This drained over $100,000 out of his savings.
John Rohner conferred with some friends, Mechanical, Electronic engineers, Physicists and other friends about the engine design and the Process verification formulas. It was quickly determined that the Papp Engine, as designed by Papp and machined by John Rohner's Family business, Rohner Machine Works, under the control of the chief machinist Robert Rohner, was not a valid design for any form of mass production. This Papp International owned engine design was not really an engine but it was, like the previous "engines", a "piston pushing" Top add on, like a head. It functioned by pushing down a piston that was actually a part of whatever Lower unit, "block", was the target. The Papp International engine, as designed by Papp, was simply a outer case that housed this same set of two distinct elements. The Other problem was that there was no way to seal this Papp International engine to make it reliable past 100 hours, calculated. So while the fuel and process was good for many months the physical engine was not. There had also been no work done to provide a fluid dynamics evaluation and this was also going to limit the engines power and reliability. The Chemistry of the Papp Design, with petroleum oil being pumped and maintained, was also a huge drawback as the petroleum would "naturally" capture both the Helium and Argon gas and thus "rob" the Fuel base. The last item was a mass production evaluation and the mechanical engineers, from engine manufacturers etc., knew that this twin in line design was overly complex and would not balance easily, as it was a two stroke not a 4 stroke design. A look at the Papp designed Crank shaft in the Papp International engine shows clearly the huge counterweights needed and the Additional central bearing required.
It was decided that either an opposed or wide V engine would be the best form for the engine as the power pulses were 180 degrees out of phase and thus additive to torque while being 26% more efficient than the Inline and requiring less counter balance to provide smooth operation. Bob Rohner has said many times this is a "Paint Shaker" design, which might be true in a 4 cycle world but not a two. Thus comment shows how little Bob understands engine design and the problems that are unique to this type engine. This design is used by many others, Yamaha, BMW, Porsche, VW, Subaru and many diesel engine companies, so it must not be too terrible.
The form factor also provided the easiest training and expansion for 4, 6, 8, 10 etc cylinders and is scalable. Another big advantage is more subtle. By providing a "common" line of torque to the Crankshaft centerline there is no twist or offset load to the crankshaft mains and due to simplicity the bearings can be replaced with Ball bearings, sealed with "non petroleum" grease to provide a better less friction bearing with broader load bearing support, as the bearings roll. This then removes the "Petroleum leech" of the fuel as well and provides a Mean Time Between Failure (MTBF) of thousands of hours, more in tune with the expected fuel and "wished for" run times. Any good engine designer can tell you these items. But not Bob Rohner or his TROLL Buddies.
The fluid dynamics studies were done based on the information learned from the multi trillion dollar "Fusion generator" research and the fact that they start this with Plasma. Added to that was the fact that the "expansion" was multi dimensional and not linear. Most of this design and development was based on simulations and all of it is now part of new "provisional" patent applications. Later studies that related to the Thermal characteristics have also been designed in and also are parts of one or more new "Provisional" Patents.
The control system was also designed for simplicity and ruggedness. John went back to his roots, the 1981 controller design and notes and understood it was overly complex in components. There was no need for the Cylinder capacitor, nor the "Reverse" voltage feedback, supposedly. A study of the patent and simulations provided a much simple and more efficient component set. Papp threw in the "inter cylinder" feedback as a way to confuse the reader and somehow get a mythical "perpetual motion" machine. Later John would "discover" that the use of a non magnetic Cylinder material and non magnetic piston would even further reduce the load as the "Reverse Voltage Generated" by the Piston as it traversed the coil would be negated resulting in less power needed to operate the engine. This created the current, circa 2013, control system and hardware structure.
In 2009 John designed two Controllers, laid out the PC Boards, soldered the parts in,
wrote the firmware and tested them.
First; Since EEPROMS were no longer the element they once were he also designed a controller that "mimicked" the 1981 controller and it's program timing. The original 81-3 controller was never designed for use above 1000 RPM, and would become unstable. John was told, by Papp and his brother Tom that their "point of reference" was 900 RPM. Generators of the time ran that speed. The Control unit John created to Mimic the "81" was based on a single 8 bit Microcomputer and was very stable it even used the single TDC signal multiplied by 3600 to get timing.
second was the first single board complete controller that embodied all the expected elements and their control. This board had a pair of microcomputers so that the input pulse steam could be better modeled like a standard automobile engine "reluctor", 36 teeth with one missing for TDC, as is used now. The second micro provided all the timing and switching functions and was programmed via a "Hardware Abstraction Layer" (HAL) that specified what happened at what degree and was somewhat flexible, not as much as today but a bunch for then.
One part of this early "design" group was an American guy that designed Generators and lived in China. We still have 4 of his generators and Cummins uses these as well. They are a big step forward as they incorporate permanent magnets into the design structure. Since he had all the design notes and drawings he decided to machine up a few engines, John paid for these from his personal funds, since there were no others at this time. A friend of Johns, and a crack Machinist, who designed and built Really big and heavy duty vehicles, also made an engine.
Now we are to July of 2009 and I had been chronicling these developments on my website. This is when Dr Girouard inquired about helping us. On July 28, 2009 he provided $100,000 and took a board seat. A couple days later he put in a few more thousand for his ex wife. John keep working contract jobs to support the project and had the machinist provide one test engine from Steel. Girouard was at the shop one time and saw the engine move, and later run, which made him feel better.
John Rohner was selected by a part of the prestigious "Embedded Control" group to compete for a prize for his control system design. As many of you know his Brother, Bob, lied and harassed the prize committee until John was disqualified because of Bob's volume of emails and phone calls and threats etc. John was, and is, a well known and respected member of this field and while Robert's action did stop his chances for winning the prize it actually brought many who knew him to get in touch with him and provide their support. John and Connie did go to the Prize banquet, at the publishers expense and from the documents gathered now understand. Bob told the committee that he had patents that I had stolen and copyrights and you name it, right down to accusing me of killing my late wife (her killer is is a Colorado prison and Bob knows that). Bob did everything he could to insure I was thrown out. I actually only sent one email to them apologizing for Bob, sometimes as head of your family you must do something. Dr Girouard met us at the show in San Jose. He asked what it would take to get finished. I told him 2 million and he, and Connie, started looking for less expensive ways. We finally settled on a minimum of $500K and he said he would get that to the company as a loan. Since I had over $400K of my personal funds plus had not been paid for any of my time etc. I told him we would try it. We had both seen an engine move so we knew it would work.
Unfortunately, Girouard could not do as he promised, but did provide $300,000. Since I was down to only about $150K in my personal monies I was worried. This money was used to hire a couple college students, one my son Matthew, to come in and help me out, and we better set up the Garage with tables tools etc. A friend from New York would also come in and help sometimes. This plus the work the Machinist did provided our first tests of an engine powered by plasma. We also bought 4 generators from China and he brought one of his engines to us to "play with". After a couple weeks in the heat John realized the garage was not going to work. John and Connie decided to buy a house so the "current" house, with the "Front room Lab" could be used for just business. Connie found a house 16 miles away and using her money, left from her home in PA, the last of what John had and a couple "family" loans, they bought it. The South English house was "converted" to a shop, and since one of John's friends had come out from New York to help and slept there a place for him to stay, so he did not need to go to a motel and get a shower. It was decided that the "shop" should pay John $1000 per month rent, which was never collected. This worked out well as the "boys" took over one bedroom, the computer and server remained where it was and everything was more comfortable with air conditioning, for everyone.
After Girouard joined us something strange happened. I gave him a "working document" that was really a copy of Klosterman's patent, that I was using for "boiler plate" before I filed the provisional. The main body had been rewritten since this was the forerunner to my filing for a real patent, as I did not know about the "Provisional" first process. The next thing I know, my Brother, Bob, is quoting from it. Bob even crowed about the "Examiner" already being assigned. I had not changed the data on that page, so it was still whatever had been done for Klosterman. Keep in Mind, that Bob Rohner and Klosterman are "Bosom" buddies as they started Clean Energy Inc. (CEI) many years before and had already sucked large amounts of monies, 18 to 23 Million, into their pockets. So why Bob thought that these guys on "my" patent were real is amusing as he evidently did not know his partners patent well. What this did do was made John start asking questions.
The answer to these questions was very unsettling. John Knew about Bob and Klosterman and their scam CEI. But Tom told John, once, that Bob had made many trips to "South Carolina" and was collaborating with someone there. John was driving home when it hit him that Girouard was from "South Carolina" and even from the specific town, Tom had mentioned. John provided mis information to Girouard and sure enough Bob talked about it. John never spoke of nor showed Girouard the Patent application, which was his target. You will note, below, this makes Girouard angry.
Girouard did get a chance to stand next to a running engine albeit
for a short time as the controller board lost a transistor. We did know a lot about making the
engine work but had not gotten enough experience with the controller nor a reproducible engine
and the Boy's had to get back to school. So in November with no money, of his or mine, left we
stopped. I then took a contract to pay my bills and "maintain" things till the following spring.
I also had some people wanting to invest more money.
Now the expected Happens for real!!!
In January, as I am working a contract to just pay bills. Girouard breaches his Non Disclosure agreement (NDA) again and meets with Klosterman, in January. In February, he meets with Klosterman and Bob Rohner and gives them $500,000 and forms "Unity International" their new company. Feb 17 he sends the "Get out I own it now" email letter to me. Order out and such Girouard, to seal the deal then Sues himself and by June owns PlasmERG Iowa via this "hostile takeover". Iowa court case
May 19, 2011 is the end of any interface, or responsibility, John Rohner can have with PlasmERG Iowa. Girouard never took possession of any of the assets and even the money in the bank, is still there. So while the Corporation is dormant, awaiting a "legal representative" and the $75 fee to be operational again it belongs lock stock and barrel to him. IF I felt like it I could become the "legal representative" and make the corporation suable.
It should be noted here that Dr Michael Girouard is a multimillionaire (like most American doctors) with a string of "weight loss" clinics franchised in South Carolina etc. So when he got the Company, and his judgment, he did not even ask for any of the "Properties" he did not already have stolen. So everything was sold, physical, and otherwise, properties for "failure to pay" Simple things like rent, or storage fees, etc. and there is still money in the bank account. John Rohner can not touch this money as the account is "PlasmERG Iowa" and not his. So, PlasmERG Iowa is still a viable company in Iowa belonging to Girouard. John is sure that his "forgetting" to retrieve his complaint from the SEC was just a simple mistake as otherwise it is perjury and libel against Rohner, since it is easily proven false and the catalyst for the SEC action, so each investor could also sue and that would put his "empire" into trouble. :0)
Here is a sample of what is due his ex workers and people that helped him out.
Warning: The SEC thinks that this "Hostile Takeover", as documented, did not happen because "They Say so and they are GOD".
On his birthday in April after giving PlasmERG to Girouard, John and Connie went to Las Vegas and while there found a group that was "supposed" to "fund" and "restart them" in June John did move himself to Vegas and created "Inteligentry" and because he "owned the name" a bookmark called "PlasmERG" as corporations in Nevada.
PlasmERG (Nevada) was created, but before Inteligentry could expand to the point it needed to expand and use this "BookMark" Inteligentry was attacked by it's own internal employees and a Wannabee Energy whiz who has no business sense but lots of mouth, Sterling Allen. Unfortunately Sterling, with his "infinite intelligence" of the business world and how to start a company and make one go, which he has never done, as he just begs and gets monies from companies like Inteligentry, yes we "donated" to our own demise in him. Sterling, in league with Bob, Tana Kane and Dan Glover were able to bring down a viable company that was weeks away from success. He was almost as good as "CEO Space". I wish anyone that trusts any information to him the best as he will use it as long as it makes him money and then use it against you to make him more. He is nothing in any way knowledgeable of any form of Power, Engineering nor Business. We expected him to abide his contract, multiple Non Disclosure Agreements and he breached them all and like a good TROLL cost the world what should be happening NOW.. So trust him if you wish but expect him to stab you in the back at first chance to make money off your carcass or whenever he feels he can and don't expect him to keep anything secret or keep any trust. I am sure that his Mormon preaching's must have served him well.
Some bad news for the EX PlasmERG, INC (IOWA)people.
As everyone knows PlasmERG Iowa was taken over by Dr. Michael Girouard, and was a competitor of Inteligentry.
Michael Girourd is currently also the partner, with Klosterman, in "Unity International" and also has joined Robert Rohner, as well. For nearly 30 years Klosterman and Robert Rohner ran CEI and "milked" the technology, so its probable. Girouard has spent over a MILLION dollars trying to replicate the engine he saw running in Iowa. Giving all PlasmERG Iowa IP to his "partners".
After numerous offers from others to buy PlasmERG Iowa, for 2 to 8 million dollars, to provide working funds, all were turned down by Girouard's buddy and accountant/lawyer Brennan, Girouard was given the company after his order throwing Rohner Out and became entirely responsible for it in March of 2011. (see order as it has Rohners resignation etc.) Girouard then promptly sued himself and dumped all assets, investors, ex employees etc in a hole and went on creating more "Weight loss" clinics and watching the $500,000 he gave Klosterman disappear.
Thus he screwed the investors and ex empoloyees owed money too as well as threw away his "Think Thin" investors as well. He did get to write it all off the taxes though, so no one lost much.
The SEC and FBI, have allowed Girouard as a complainant and with him, his illusion that PlasmERG Iowa is somehow the alter ego of PlasmERG Nevada. Notice they used July 2009 as their starting date. That was Girouard's date of first stock purchase. If you read the SEC response you will also see they make it clear they are working for Girouard.
Clearly this is not any fact as Girouard even states he has taken all control and John and Connie must resign "all" control to him. The Iowa Federal court makes no bones about the fact that John is "no party" to the lawsuit. So it clearly is a "hostile takeover" to the world, EXCEPT Girouard, and the SEC/FBI joint team. Notice their latest try to get rid of the attorneys is to "protect" the $300,000 for Girouard.
So now you know.
The Investors can thank Tana and Dan. They are the worms in the FBI and SEC ears and why this is happening. They also have founded their own company with a licensee from India and a Master from Australia. SO, the FBI and SEC had "INSIDE" help and still got it wrong.
IT'S SUCH A PITY, and too bad my Lil Brother, Bob, can not stand on his OWN two FEET, YET!!
I notice that Bob continues to use my youngest Brother, Tom As a "Fund Raiser",
He even presents his resume, as if he were alive. Hoping to make you feel "pity".
He seems to forget that Tom Died Of Cancer, Some time ago, Maybe
as a result of the "Radio Active" components Bob subjected him too.
Tom did not wish to join Bob. He did all he could to convince Bob and get us brothers
all together when I made them the offer to make a REAL Company and Bob refused.
Tom and I talked many times about how the engine worked and he was sure I had it
right and Bob "would never get it", which he has not, even after 30 some years.
He was very happy when, after months of being told by Bob that he had done it for us,
I formed "Rohner Motor", which upset Bob because his plan was to Resurrect CEI.
Tom's "objection" to being a part of the SCAM CEI is what that brought Tom
to finally create "Rohner Group". Which Bob has now taken over.......
I was very sorry that Tom Died. I get asked why did I not go to the funeral.
Simply put it was Bob's threats against me and my Family
Ask Bob why Tom had to die outside the USA? Treatments were available here to
cure him. WELL, I don't need anyone's PITY! I would never use my Brothers death,
and everyone's Pity, as Bob is.
So, Tom I am sorry for what your next older brother is doing with
As the Head of the Rohner Family, all I can say is my lil brother Bob is an AH
it does go well with his BS.
Too bad Bob can not stand on his own two feet and be honest. BUT!
May My little brother Tom Rest in peace, luckily unknowing he is being exploited by his next older brother, as usual.
Tom was a good person, even apologized for the misdeeds of the linear's, paid for his tickets when we went to concerts, etc. Not Bob.
I DO Miss Him. He was a GOOD Brother and lived a good life. Betty and I both miss you, Tom! "WOW BOB!!!"
Be sure to Enjoy Life ... it is GOD's, by whatever name, greatest gift to YOU.
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